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phildow
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Warning, btw, to other folks - you cannot just revert to 2.5.3. Journler hangs.

Hold the shift key as you start Journler up.

Can you give me some examples of what isn't working?
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NovaScotian



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok, I'll reload the beta and make a list. At this point it would be from memory.
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NovaScotian



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I take it back - Nested smart folders do not work the way I thought they did, so I'm running the offending set as separate instead of nested. I've manged to confuse myself about the collection rules.
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bluloo



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm digging the new tags thing. Nice work Phil. :)

For others, there is no "need" to have tags visible in the outliner view, if it means that it impacts screen real estate. It also might be nice to see comments in a side window for those more inclined to use them instead of the tags field.

This only whets my whistle for Lex all the more.
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phildow
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
NovaScotian wrote:
I take it back - Nested smart folders do not work the way I thought they did, so I'm running the offending set as separate instead of nested. I've manged to confuse myself about the collection rules.


If something is amiss definitely let me know.
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betty



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Couple of things:
Smart folder dragging seems to go a little squiffy, dragging to a folder of category is "Word" adds a second element of "DiffWord" as well.
Also, the delicious new tags, using co: to identify a responsible person for a tag the autocomplete seems a little weird when i type the : in it picks the first entry and puts the colon at the end eg co:johnsmith: rather than co:

Hope this makes sense.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
At least in response to the the second part, it would seem that the colon is a special character used by the token system component. For now I would sugget not using colons in the tags.
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NovaScotian



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Couldn't it be that {co:ACB, comp:ABcorp} is confused as a record but the tagging system is not set up to deal with them?
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talazem



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice. :-) But does anyone have a script now to erase all of the comments?
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NovaScotian



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This will do it (though I have not tested it: I use comments)

Code:
tell application "Journler"
   set allE to (get entries)
   repeat with E in allE
      set comment of E to ""
   end repeat
end tell
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Nestor



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Tags issue in Smart Folders Reply with quote
Hi,
too curious of new tags I'm trying the beta. I'm experiencing a strange behaviour with nested smart folder made from tags. In a smart folder hierarchy in which A contain b and c if I autotag for b and then for c the tags in A are duplicated. The result is that in an entry that appears both in b and c I have this set of tags: Atags + btags + Atags + ctags. Is it clear? and is it normal that 'common' tags are duplicated?
A little question: as 'tags' were what I was waiting for I'm working for my projects in the beta: is it safe regarding data loss?
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cruising



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: The colon pain :) Reply with quote
I had all my comments (old tags) sort of GTD setup. I created tags for all my projects with

P: project name

I ran the conversion script.

One problem with that script - if you have a comment that "ends" with your delimiter, the script breaks. No big deal. Just fix and rerun it.

However, I tried updating my smart folders from the "comments" to the new tag field... but all my tags are "P: something... " and I have to scroll the list (not coming up automatically)...

Not sure how to describe it better. I press P: and all of a sudden some other string pops up.

If I scroll through the list (which is not sorted) I can find it and make it work.

Thanks
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cruising



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
BTW - if you have script to change all my tags from p:yada yada to

p-yada yada

where yada yada is a variety of values, that would be helpful :)
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NovaScotian



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This works for me:

Code:
tell application "Journler"
   set E to entries
   repeat with I in E
      set T to tags of I
      set NT to {}
      repeat with tg in T
         tell contents of tg
            if it contains "p:" then
               set end of NT to rich text 3 thru -1 of it
            else
               set end of NT to it
            end if
            set tags of I to NT
         end tell
      end repeat
   end repeat
end tell
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cruising



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Novascotian. The only problem is that I have multiple tags on an item. For example

P:Project1, p:customer123

I will try and fiddle with it - I have no idea how to do string parsing like that in applescript :)

thanks again
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